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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:28 am 
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I’m new to your message board. I live near Titusville (20 minutes away) and would enjoy joining your group for the run. If there’s anything you need prior to the run (actual weather, road or trail conditions, etc.) you can let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:01 pm 
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I'd very much appreciate weather and area condition updates the few days prior to our run. Thanks.


hoping to see you there!


Kim


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:00 pm 
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SportiB wrote:
I'd very much appreciate weather and area condition updates the few days prior to our run. Thanks.


hoping to see you there!


Kim


Kim I think the problem with a few days prior is that the conditions can change so much so quickly on the trails; thats one of the reasons why the FAs are so great, you do what you can on the day, and its for YOUR benefit no one else actually cares, but you have company and support if you want it.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:43 pm 
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plodder wrote:
SportiB wrote:
I'd very much appreciate weather and area condition updates the few days prior to our run. Thanks.


hoping to see you there!


Kim


Kim I think the problem with a few days prior is that the conditions can change so much so quickly on the trails; thats one of the reasons why the FAs are so great, you do what you can on the day, and its for YOUR benefit no one else actually cares, but you have company and support if you want it.






plodder ... I don't understand what you're getting at. They offered to give updates if anybody wanted and I accepted. I especially don't get why you stressed 'YOUR' and that nobody else cares?

anyways, thanks for your opinion - I think.


I look at FAs as training races, basically ... not that anybody cares ;-) ... it has nothing to do with who else is running or how fast/slow they are going ... I set personal goals and try for them ... I hope that isn't offensive to anybody.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:26 am 
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Location: Rootstown, OH
Things are right on track for the last Saturday this month! We have received permission to use the TMS (Titusville Middle School) parking lot to park at all day. Also, local users of the park are reporting great conditions on the trails! One request is that we stay off the groomed section of the trail when we get to the cross country trail section. A lot of work has gone into making that section nice for the cross country skiers. As I mentioned before, Perk Place Cafe will be our watering hole for afterwards! If anyone wants the menu, e-mail me at nickruns100@gmail.com and I can e-mail you the PDF of the menu. Lots of options for eating...and drinking...for everyone!

Keep in mind that this is a FA (Fat Ass) so there is no shirt, no aid, no course markings, and no whining! (What's a FA?: http://www.coolrunning.com.au/fatass/hq ... And_Is_Not)

See you at 7am at TMS on the 27th!

Happy Trails!
Nick

Google Map to TMS: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 38581&z=15


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:50 pm 
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I'm looking to carpool over with anyone from the Yo./Warren area. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:34 am 
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Bruce/Moose,

I am leaning towards leaving in the morning on Saturday.

Maybe meet in Girard and carpool up together?

Big Moose prob going too.

Bob

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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:18 pm 
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Bob,
I'll have to let you know, as I might be working. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Oil Creek FA 50K thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:19 pm 
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unfortunately I am not going to try this afterall. my leg troubles just make the trip not advisable. hopefully I can get some easier milage in near home.

hope those of you going have a terrific time!


Kim


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 Post subject: Oil Creek FA 50K Final Update
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:36 pm 
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6 months ago many of enjoyed the fall colors of Oil Creek State Park and 6 months from now, many of us will head out for another or for our 1st OC buckle!

This Saturday, the Oil Creek FA 50K is all set to go. Here are some details/updates:

Luckily, not much, if any, snow is scheduled for the rest of the week and temps are hovering in the mid to upper 20s. Hopefully, that'll harden up the trail a bit from the warmth of the 30s over the past weekend and the rain. Right now, it's looking mighty fine for running on Saturday. Be prepared for plenty of wet feet, muddy trails, and slushy snow. A 2nd or 3rd pair of socks wouldn't be a bad idea with plenty of lube already on. Weather Forecast: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USPA1644

Start Time: 7am from the Titusville Middle School parking lot, the same location as race headquarters on race weekend this October

Google Map to TMS: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 16354&z=16

This is a FA (fat-ass) and it will stay true to that. "No Fees, No Awards, No Aid, No Wimps" Carry what you need and be prepared. For me, I plan on wearing my Nathan pack filled with water and some Heed electrolyte powder to make up drinks along the way. I may drop some aid at Petroleum Center, 1/2 way around the 50K loop. There is a pavilion there that serves as a very patriotic aid station during the Oil Creek Trail Runs. For those of you definitely making the whole trek around, this is an option. Leave things there or stash/hide at your own risk. Here is a Google link to Petroleum Center...easy to stop en route to Titusville if approaching Titusville from the south: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 08647&z=12

FA defined: http://www.coolrunning.com.au/fatass/hq ... And_Is_Not

Oil Creek Course Description: http://www.oilcreek100.org/Home/course

Oil Creek Home Page: http://www.oilcreek100.org

Recommendation: let's all stay together at least until we get to the trail. There are a few miles of asphalt in the beginning and those unfamiliar with the area may not find the trail if left behind. Once on the trail, just follow those yellow blazes. Leave nothing but footprints and take plenty of pictures!

Afterwards, please join us at Perk Place Cafe. Perk Place's owner was both a 50K runner in 2009 and sponsor of the event so please stop by, say "Hi!" and support this local restaurant! http://maps.google.com/places/us/pa/tit ... cafe?gl=us

Below is a message from the Oil Creek Trail Runs Race Director, Tom Jennings, that he sent out last week. Please review it again and thanks in advance for your cooperation and working together this weekend:

LIGHTING / DISTANCE - With this deep snow I am pretty sure I will have to take the hikers at 10 AM on one or two loops of the northern 5 mile loop between Jersey Bridge and Boughton acid works / suspension bridge. We can do the 5 mile loop in reverse after doing it once if we want more "fun." :-) But I've been in the park nearly every weekend the past two winters either taking GPS readings or training for the McNaughton Park 150 miler, and the trails can vary between a few inches deep and knee deep depending upon the slope you are on. It is typically a hike, not a run, in these conditions. The past two winters it appeared as though I was the only person in the park as the trails were pristine and I had to do trailblazing all of the time, but the interest in the race has gotten a few more folks out on the trails this winter and they might not be quite as bad. But they will still be very challenging with the limited traction in deep snow.

Therefore, those of you attempting the 50K, if we don't have a thaw between now and 2/27 and the snow is this deep and slow going, be prepared to do a lot of hiking and have lighting in case you go longer than you expected. It is very tiring to be trailblazing in loose and deep snow so you may not be able to go as far as you thought. Be prepared to have to return in the direction you came to or be with a group knowledgeable on how to get back the shortest route in case you tire out. It normally takes me 6.5 to 7.5 hours to make a loop in good weather and when I'm in 100 mile race shape. So in this deep snow, I suspect I could not even make the loop even once in that deep of snow, or if I did, it would take me a LONG time. Even the bike path is deep in snow and that is difficult to go miles on that... I've done it before and can tell you this from personal experience the past two winters.

Elite and local runners - please share your experience on the trail in the past few weeks so people are aware of the conditions.

If you have snowshoes they may be more appropriate than trail shoes / spikes if we don't get a thaw.

SAFETY - I recommend traveling in groups. There are still wild animals in the park so be mindful of that as well. Be careful as an emergency rescue will be next to impossible as the bike path is impassable in winter, as well as Miller Farm Rd is now maintained in the winter, it is the road that separates the north and southern half of the park. Bring a whistle just in case. Have a cell phone in case there is an emergency and one of your group members can get to a high point where there is cell phone service.

BATHROOMS (or lack thereof) - In addition, unless I rent a portable toilet, there will be no toilets in the northern half of the park. Wolfkiel Run bathroom near Miller Farm Rd is the northern-most restroom that will be available as the porta-john at the Jersey Bridge parking lot near Drake Well Museum and Titusville is removed during the winter. Plan accordingly with toilet paper / wipes. There are no restrooms at the middle school either. So before you arrive in the morning, you may want to stop at McDonalds or the like to use their restroom and get a hot chocolate. If people reply and let me know there thoughts, I could rent a portable toilet for the Jersey Bridge parking lot at the northern end of the park and about 1.25 miles from the middle school.

XC Ski trails - reminder to stay off to the side of the red loop XC ski trail on the east side of the park, it is the first several miles just north of Petroleum Center. You will see the ski marks and the red tree markings. A lot of work goes into these XC ski trails, please don't ruin them by running in their ski tracks.

Have a great rest of the week, everyone, eat some pasta on Thursday and Friday, and come out ready to have FUN!!!! When the fun stops, head on over to Perk Place!

Happy (and muddy/snowy) Trails!
Nick Billock
'09 OC100 Buckle Holder :-)

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